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Magic ^___^
by Emma Amos | Oct 7th 2013, 07:52
I always loved fantasy genre, so I'm naturaly attracted to fictional magical worlds. However, I don't like when there is an overflow with magic in form of spells, incantations and rituals - sometimes it's too confusing. Besides, I hate how magic conveniently solves all major problems in fantasy stories. Basically, I prefer it to stay in the background.
ReplyMalgorzata Wyrwas | October 13, 2013
What if magic was like a really big part of it. Would it be different if magic was only used at the end of the story instead of throughout the story.
ReplyEmma Amos | October 14, 2013
I think it's not the issue when the magic is being used, but more of its form. In the books of "Sword and Magic" genre, I prefer the sword type: military strategy over battling with spells, although a pinch of sorcery is fine. I don't like when everything can be fixed with magic, like all wounds healed, the villain killed with a magical beam. I prefer the old fashioned way - with a good axe. I'm allergoc to wizards, but magical creatures are a different story (come on, who doesn't like dragons?).
ReplyMalgorzata Wyrwas | October 14, 2013
dragons are awesome
ReplyEmma Amos | October 16, 2013
I love stories that are filled with magic, however, like any story it has to be balanced with other things. Whether it be war, romance, mystery. Its all good :)
ReplyS.D Stevens | October 16, 2013
i like when magic is mixed with romance or conflict or even betrayal
ReplyEmma Amos | October 16, 2013
I write mostly fantasy-supernatural stories sooooo I guess I would have to say I love them. So long as they are really interesting and not just a bunch of love and mushy stuff. I like action in it too. :)
ReplyElizia Brittian | October 23, 2013
I love them. Really, anything is better with magic! But really, the other people like Malgorzata Wyrwas are right. Magic can't solve ALL the problems. I personally prefer a few magical creatures like dragons here and there instead of a world-saving spell that conveniently falls into the protagonists hands when they need it. Magic is the best thing ever. It just needs to be done right. That's my opinion anyway. First comment. yay.
ReplyLauren The Chicken | October 24, 2013
Oh yeah... ouch -winces- World saving spell? Mary Sue alert. @_@
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
I think its cool. i also like the kind of stories where there's magic but the main person isn't aware that the evil person that used magic to destroy things is actually them. sorry, i know sounds a bit confusing
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Oh you mean like double personality or future self against past self?
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
Yeah or like twins who were actually always just one person
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
I find that to be both a creepy concept, and an overused one. It must have a twist of sorts.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
You really think its creepy. what if it was twins but they weren't human. more like one was light and one was dark. say there was like a massive collision like a war but not a war and dark was winning. then the light used everything she had and finally managed to seal her twin supposedly forever but she uses too much power and even though the dark has been stopped, the light gets sent to an alternate reality with no memories of anything.
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Yup, definitely creepy. In a good sort of creepy way, but nonetheless, creepy.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
would it still be creepy if the land was made of candy.
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
creepier, actually. "I just sealed the dark side of myself away and have amnesia. What's this world made of? Edible sweet stuff?"
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
would it be worse if the light found the world she belonged in and still didn't remember anything and then she finds a giant jack-in-the-box with a seal on it and she warned not to go near it because the giant jack-in-the-box is actually where she sealed her evil twin before she lost her memory
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Yeah, definitely sensing the creepy. o3o
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
would it be less creepy if the people that lived there were special kinds of dwarves and elves
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
You misunderstand my meaning. Creepy is not bad or good, it's just creepy. If something is creepy, it might even have an eerie sort of charm. And I think the dwarves and elves would actually make it creepier. Go figure.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
i see. so dwarves mining for fudge is eerie not creepy. thanks
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
eerie and creepy are synonyms.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
but mixing eerie with fantasy is not a bad thing if you ask me
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Never said it was.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
i know. just wanted to know what you thought was all ^_^
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
I think it sounds creepy.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
good creepy or bad creepy
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
neutral creepy. Neither here nor there, just good old neither nor creepy.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
ok. thanks ^_^
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
-waves off- no probs. ... -pokes your cheek- Squeeeeesh. o3o
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
I'll start writing it next week. got two others to work on at the moment
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
I have two main stories, Sensa Nome and A Dreamgiver's Tale. Neither are published here yet. I will publish them soon though.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
I have 3 stories published on here at the moment. only 1 is completed though
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
-giggles- None of mine are completed. I haven't even breached the second major point in the rising action on my main [a pox upon novel length writings]
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
its cool. you should take your time
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
I am. @_@ it's aggravatingly slow.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
i'm going to uni next year. i want what i write to be sold in a bookstore
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Yeah, that'd be super cool ^^
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
what i'm hoping for
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Publishers are tough though, I'd suggest getting a lit agent first. Noveljoy actually has a section for looking up lit agents, I'd give it a look see if I were you. I haven't yet, but that's because I don't have a nearly finished story to present.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
I'll do that.thanks
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
No problem, I practically live on Noveljoy so I know there are plenty of things you can find on there. It was only created about a year or so back so it's a baby site like this one, only a little older. A lot of the features it has now weren't there when it began. The Publishers section is fairly new, so is the Live Chat [that no one uses, to my knowledge xD] and so are the Group pages [also sort of empty, I guess]
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
i'll check it out thanks
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Again, no probs. I live there xD Seriously peek in on the forums if you need proof of that fact.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
will do
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Oh Oh Oh It's magic! You know.... [sorry this was my brain's first response to the name of your topic] Anywho, me loves fantasy, so does myself and I. ^^ I just find it all so... inventive :D
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
I think it's amazing
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Their's a pretty broad range of it too ^^ What sorts are your favorite?
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
i like magic with like fairies and witches and things like that. Then there's the dark side of magic which is also cool. what about you
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
I like magic with spirits and demons and soothsaying and all kinds of races an d magical folk, but also in the fantasy genre I like worlds that are dreamy [I haven't published it yet, but one of my main stories occurs completely within the Dreamscape]
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
Cool ^_^ i love magical creatures
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
I wouldn't really call it "magic" per se, it's more dreamy. Like Alice's Adventures in Wonderland sort of fantastical.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
awesome. i love alice in wonderland
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Me <3 Lewis Carroll. My favorite author of all time. I won't go on too much longer about how I'm a crazy fangirl for him, but let's just say that if I could go back in time I would go to the Victorian Era *just* to marry him. And he wouldn't have a choice in the matter. I'd get him drunk and drag his butt to Vegas. o3o
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
did you see tim burton's version of alice in wonderland
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Yeah, and I despised most of it. Love Tim Burton to death, but there's no excuse for plaigarism.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
are you going to see the 2nd one
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
....There's... a second one... T_T Did I not make my opinion on the first clear enough?
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
so you're not going to see it
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
I really don't know if I will, but as I just said, the first was plagiarized, and I don't approve of stealing other people's work and using it for your own [and I don't mean taking from the original media, I mean taking from other Alice renditions]
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
i see what you mean. it did just look like the original lewis carol one but darker
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
No, it wasn't anything like the original by Lewis Carroll. It borrowed plot lines and visuals from American McGee's first Alice game and the concept of the world being "real" and Alice having amnesia about it came from The Looking Glass Wars.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
the storyline kinda seemed the same to me. plagiarism is still wrong though
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
The story line wasn't at all the same. There were no battles in the original Alice in Wonderland. She was just a 7-year old experiencing a dream. And by god, I may love Anne Hathaway's work, but I cannot stand what they did to the White Queen.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
the white queen seemed a bit pathetic to me
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Oh, she was supposed to be pathetic, but she was also supposed to be from Through the Looking Glass and her counterpart was the Red Queen, not the Queen of Hearts [They are not interchangeable in the original books, the only place where they were was in American McGee's Alice. Go figure]. Otherwise, the reason I despised what they did to her was because of a particularly aggravating trait--Tim Burton's White Queen didn't live backwards, the original did.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
i get it. i see why you'd be annoyed
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Yup. ^^ That and I loved the Alice games by American McGee so stealing plot lines and visuals from them is something I really don't appreciate.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
I get it. I saw an alice and wonderland game and i was going to get it but then i saw the trailer and it completely freaked me out so i didn't buy it
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Ah, that's probably American McGee's then. Dark and spooky psychological mind fuck. Complete with lots of blood and gore ^^ It's a fantastic plot line though, for both games. So much gameplay, so many awesome reveals, so many fantastic quotes, banging costumes... it's a spooky Wonderland lover playground :D
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
could have been. i think the game was called Alice madness returns
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Yeah that's the second one. The first was made in 2000, and it follows Alice through her Wonderland hallucination in Rutledge Asylum as she travels through Wonderland to find a specific weapon to defeat the Jabberwocky and in turn, the Red Queen/Queen of Hearts [hint hint: sound familiar?]
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
sounds very familiar. have you played the game
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
It should sound familiar because that literally the near exact plot of the Tim Burton flick [which came out in 2010] Anywho, yes, I've played and finished the first Alice on easy, haven't managed normal, hard or crazy yet. I haven't beaten Alice Madness returns yet, but I'm currently looking for all the collectibles.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
plagiarism is a crime
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Well, methinks he got away with it because they're different media and he combined it with other ideas [Alice Kingsley had amnesia like Princess Alyss in The Looking Glass Wars, and also the dream was supposedly real in the movie, whereas in American McGee's it was all a hallucination] Namely as you'll find out if you play the first and second Alice games, the Alice Liddell from those versions is a chronic schizophrenic.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
so there are differences between each one
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Barely present ones. Alice Kingsley is closer to how Princess Alyss is in The Looking Glass Wars [mind you, still taking from something else] and the world is "real" like in The Looking Glass Wars, but Alice getting the vorpal blade *specifically* and having to defeat the Jabberwocky once she has that? The only difference in all technicality is what the weapon is.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
not many differences then
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
The Alices are different, and I don't like Alice Kingsley, so that's not a plus for me.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
i see
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
-nods- You know, there were only 8 replies on this topic before we got to chatting -tilts head- It's probably somewhere in the 80s now...
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
big difference
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Da. Proof that I talk too much. o3o Well, in all fairness, I was only half of two conversations...
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
and i was the other half
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Yup. o3o I had another online friend that I got this crazy with. Well, I had two, but more to the point, one always replied to everything I posted on noveljoy. We aggravated the hell out of each other sometimes with the speed of our forum posting.
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
sounds fun
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
Definitely was. Especially when we got to role playing, that was when things got bat shit crazy. And we always managed to get off topic from the original post... there was one time when a new member rudely asked is we were all teenage girls and the topic went from wailing on him to a rp about flying carpets, TARDISes, danishes, and tea parties on the ceiling. o3o ... Anyway! -holds out hand- Friends?
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
yeah, of course we're friends
ReplyEmma Amos | November 9, 2013
.... -stares blankly, and then hugs- Yay friends!! ^^
ReplyMelody Hallows | November 9, 2013
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